Comments on: The Future of Rich Internet Application (RIA) Technologies http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/ People Deserve Better Software Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:44:32 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: mlinaje http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4807 mlinaje Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:28:41 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4807 It's nice to see a two years old post already alive. So, the issue is on the target already, but maybe a revision could be useful (past expectations, present and future). Now mobiles (mainly from the middle of 2007) are supporting standard-based RIAs (i.e., AJAX at the moment)with their limitations (iPhone, Android). Also HTML 5 is gaining attention and more since the announcement from the W3C to discontinue XHTML 2 at the end of this year. Maybe we trend to think that technologies appear/update faster than they really do... what do you think about these issues? It’s nice to see a two years old post already alive. So, the issue is on the target already, but maybe a revision could be useful (past expectations, present and future). Now mobiles (mainly from the middle of 2007) are supporting standard-based RIAs (i.e., AJAX at the moment)with their limitations (iPhone, Android).

Also HTML 5 is gaining attention and more since the announcement from the W3C to discontinue XHTML 2 at the end of this year.

Maybe we trend to think that technologies appear/update faster than they really do…

what do you think about these issues?

]]> By: billige mobiltelefoner http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4799 billige mobiltelefoner Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:03:50 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4799 very nice wordpress blog, i just love the design. some of the artikel i really outstanding.. very nice wordpress blog, i just love the design. some of the artikel i really outstanding..

]]> By: taletidskort http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4787 taletidskort Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:11:36 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4787 A lot of good argument:) nice work.. A lot of good argument:) nice work..

]]> By: a-kasser http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4784 a-kasser Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:28:03 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4784 Nice articel... please keep them comming. Nice articel… please keep them comming.

]]> By: billig mobil http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4783 billig mobil Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:32:52 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4783 I'm can't agree with all of it, but for det most parts i think it's a really god post.. I’m can’t agree with all of it, but for det most parts i think it’s a really god post..

]]> By: mobiltelefoner abonnement http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4782 mobiltelefoner abonnement Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:15:22 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4782 Really nice post. I get your point:) Really nice post. I get your point:)

]]> By: billige mobiler http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4777 billige mobiler Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:02:10 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4777 I kan only agree with our post. good work. I kan only agree with our post. good work.

]]> By: taletid http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4776 taletid Sun, 02 Aug 2009 11:53:15 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4776 Cool post,.. more of them thanks.. Cool post,.. more of them thanks..

]]> By: Billig a kasse http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4647 Billig a kasse Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:03:13 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4647 Great post man, keep up the good work ;-) Great post man, keep up the good work ;-)

]]> By: Rafael http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4441 Rafael Sat, 07 Feb 2009 09:15:40 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4441 It is 2009 and your article is on target. Not only is Adobe adopting native 3d, and RIAs aiming increasingly at the mobile market with say the "Open Screen Project", but your take on simplicity and sophistication hit the mark too. You have gained a new follower. It is 2009 and your article is on target. Not only is Adobe adopting native 3d, and RIAs aiming increasingly at the mobile market with say the “Open Screen Project”, but your take on simplicity and sophistication hit the mark too. You have gained a new follower.

]]> By: Internet Solutions India http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-1086 Internet Solutions India Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:53:49 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-1086 Great Read! I especially agree with your input about "Personalization". It's the age of technology but easy to use is the need of the hour, with every technology dependent person looking at saving time not getting lost trying to figure out a complicated interface. <a href="http://www.pragmites.com/" rel="nofollow">Internet Solutions India</a> Great Read!

I especially agree with your input about “Personalization”. It’s the age of technology but easy to use is the need of the hour, with every technology dependent person looking at saving time not getting lost trying to figure out a complicated interface.

Internet Solutions India

]]> By: sujatha http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-542 sujatha Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:27:43 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-542 Good article. It is rightly said that it doesnt matter whether Ajax scores over Flash or flex and vice versa but whether RIA helps target right content and also enhances better User experience Good article. It is rightly said that it doesnt matter whether Ajax scores over Flash or flex and vice versa but whether RIA helps target right content and also enhances better User experience

]]> By: Noj http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-429 Noj Wed, 27 Jun 2007 05:37:27 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-429 Great Article. I was actually thinking of specializing in one kind of an RIA Application. Flash seems to be good. With Adobe's new Apollo, which can run on desktop environment, and sync back to the server when connected, much more productivity is acheived. Great Article. I was actually thinking of specializing in one kind of an RIA Application. Flash seems to be good. With Adobe’s new Apollo, which can run on desktop environment, and sync back to the server when connected, much more productivity is acheived.

]]> By: Mark Nankman http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-12 Mark Nankman Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:39:40 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-12 Great post! I agree that Adobe is currently holding the best cards. Their RIA platform is way ahead of the competition. Because of their advantage, Adobe has the luxury of focussing on the quality of their RIA development environment environment and tools. This is clearly visible in the latest release of their RIA technology flagship Flex. Also, Adobe is reaching out to the Java developer community, to create more awareness of the enterprise capabilities and qualities of Flex. Fruits of these efforts are the adoption of Flex by Oracle and SAP. Adobe is in the lead and taking very sensible steps to stay in the lead. I see only one other company that might be able to gain on Adobe in the next 5 years (probably much sooner): Microsoft... Great post! I agree that Adobe is currently holding the best cards. Their RIA platform is way ahead of the competition. Because of their advantage, Adobe has the luxury of focussing on the quality of their RIA development environment environment and tools. This is clearly visible in the latest release of their RIA technology flagship Flex. Also, Adobe is reaching out to the Java developer community, to create more awareness of the enterprise capabilities and qualities of Flex. Fruits of these efforts are the adoption of Flex by Oracle and SAP. Adobe is in the lead and taking very sensible steps to stay in the lead. I see only one other company that might be able to gain on Adobe in the next 5 years (probably much sooner): Microsoft…

]]> By: World Toucouleur [Marketing] » Blog Archive » The Future of Rich Internet Application Technologies http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-10 World Toucouleur [Marketing] » Blog Archive » The Future of Rich Internet Application Technologies Thu, 01 Feb 2007 10:30:30 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-10 [...] Here is a very interesting question, to which Anthony Franco tried to provide an answer: The Future of Rich Internet Application Technologies. [...] [...] Here is a very interesting question, to which Anthony Franco tried to provide an answer: The Future of Rich Internet Application Technologies. [...]

]]> By: Saumande.net http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-9 Saumande.net Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:25:58 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-9 <strong>A ne pas manquer concernant les RIA</strong> Cet article est une mine d’or concernant l’état de l’art des RIA, et notamment quels sont les facteurs clefs du succés et les technologies gagnantes de demain. Ce qui est amusant, c’est que je discutais hier avec des collègue... A ne pas manquer concernant les RIA

Cet article est une mine d’or concernant l’état de l’art des RIA, et notamment quels sont les facteurs clefs du succés et les technologies gagnantes de demain.
Ce qui est amusant, c’est que je discutais hier avec des collègue…

]]> By: Sid B. Dane http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-8 Sid B. Dane Tue, 30 Jan 2007 07:33:14 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-8 I agree on many points here. Especially the "simple" paragraph. The challenge here is to develop Rich Internet Applications which are easy to use for the "common" user. This user is accustomed to standards of interfaces in current (Windows) applications. Each Usability analist can tell you how a webpage should look like (navigation on top or left, go easy on flashing banners, what do colours mean etc). When RIA's are used more and more the interface standards are not defined yet, and espacially Microsoft will have a problem there because you can design WPF in so many different look and feels. Adobe's Flash (Flex) for sure has a great interface standard now, but still: how you should design the application itself isn't sorted out properly yet. I think in the next year we will see a lot of different interpretations and then... perhaps... real Usability guidelines will develop. I agree on many points here. Especially the “simple” paragraph. The challenge here is to develop Rich Internet Applications which are easy to use for the “common” user.

This user is accustomed to standards of interfaces in current (Windows) applications. Each Usability analist can tell you how a webpage should look like (navigation on top or left, go easy on flashing banners, what do colours mean etc). When RIA’s are used more and more the interface standards are not defined yet, and espacially Microsoft will have a problem there because you can design WPF in so many different look and feels. Adobe’s Flash (Flex) for sure has a great interface standard now, but still: how you should design the application itself isn’t sorted out properly yet.

I think in the next year we will see a lot of different interpretations and then… perhaps… real Usability guidelines will develop.

]]> By: boredandblogging http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-7 boredandblogging Sun, 28 Jan 2007 03:55:31 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-7 After reading my comment again, I realize that I didn't articulate myself well enough. I agree with you that RIA is the next evolutionary step. I think I was asking how soon we would need RIAs. Even though the Ajax technology has been around for years, it has only started to see widespread usage. I'm not sure we have seen all the novel experiences with Ajax yet, especially if there is innovation in how information is presented to the user (like what gmail did for webmail). After reading my comment again, I realize that I didn’t articulate myself well enough. I agree with you that RIA is the next evolutionary step. I think I was asking how soon we would need RIAs. Even though the Ajax technology has been around for years, it has only started to see widespread usage. I’m not sure we have seen all the novel experiences with Ajax yet, especially if there is innovation in how information is presented to the user (like what gmail did for webmail).

]]> By: anthonyfranco http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-6 anthonyfranco Sat, 27 Jan 2007 21:32:48 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-6 boredandblogging... Contrary to what you may infer from my last post, I don't see RIAs as a "wave" but more like a natural evolution. Many companies are talking about how important usability is, and RIA technologies just give them a broader pallet from which to paint from. HTML is quite adequate for most online information. However, when you want customers or employees to interact with that information, you may consider leveraging RIA technologies for the simple reason of making your application more usable. There are other advantages that i will be blogging about later... look for a blog from me soon: "why care about RIAs?" boredandblogging…

Contrary to what you may infer from my last post, I don’t see RIAs as a “wave” but more like a natural evolution. Many companies are talking about how important usability is, and RIA technologies just give them a broader pallet from which to paint from. HTML is quite adequate for most online information. However, when you want customers or employees to interact with that information, you may consider leveraging RIA technologies for the simple reason of making your application more usable.

There are other advantages that i will be blogging about later… look for a blog from me soon: “why care about RIAs?”

]]> By: boredandblogging http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-5 boredandblogging Sat, 27 Jan 2007 20:34:47 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-5 Is it possible that the need for RIA won't be here as fast as expected? Let me use webmail as an example. Microsoft and Yahoo's webmail solutions is an attempt to move Outlook to the web. While admirable, they are not innovative and clunky. On the other hand, Gmail showed us that you can do email in a much faster way (without all the drag and drop) and organize information differently (with tags/labels). There is definitely resistance to organizing information in a different way. I have seen this being an issue with customers who think that one piece of information should only belong in one category. Maybe we don't need RIA, but different ways of presenting information to users? I'm not saying RIA isn't the next big wave, I'm just wondering if there is that much of a need for it sooner than later? Is it possible that the need for RIA won’t be here as fast as expected?

Let me use webmail as an example. Microsoft and Yahoo’s webmail solutions is an attempt to move Outlook to the web. While admirable, they are not innovative and clunky.

On the other hand, Gmail showed us that you can do email in a much faster way (without all the drag and drop) and organize information differently (with tags/labels). There is definitely resistance to organizing information in a different way. I have seen this being an issue with customers who think that one piece of information should only belong in one category. Maybe we don’t need RIA, but different ways of presenting information to users?

I’m not saying RIA isn’t the next big wave, I’m just wondering if there is that much of a need for it sooner than later?

]]> By: jaypullur http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4 jaypullur Sat, 27 Jan 2007 16:19:28 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-4 Excellent analysis. I guess your view point allows much broader set of requirements to be fulfilled by RIA platforms. Excellent analysis. I guess your view point allows much broader set of requirements to be fulfilled by RIA platforms.

]]> By: Web X.Y » Thoughts about the Future of Ria http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-3 Web X.Y » Thoughts about the Future of Ria Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:44:32 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-3 [...] this nice blog entry about the future of ria. It compares the different technologies that are competing [...] [...] this nice blog entry about the future of ria. It compares the different technologies that are competing [...]

]]> By: Ryan Stewart - Rich Internet Application Mountaineer » Some Good Thoughts on the Future of RIAs http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-2 Ryan Stewart - Rich Internet Application Mountaineer » Some Good Thoughts on the Future of RIAs Sat, 27 Jan 2007 04:19:10 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/the-future-of-rich-internet-application-ria-technologies/#comment-2 [...] believe is aggregated on MXNA and seems to work for effectiveUI has a really good post about The Future of Rich Internet Applications. What I like best about it is that it isn’t coming from the viewpoint of either Adobe or [...] [...] believe is aggregated on MXNA and seems to work for effectiveUI has a really good post about The Future of Rich Internet Applications. What I like best about it is that it isn’t coming from the viewpoint of either Adobe or [...]

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