Comments on: Flex And AJAX, Friends or Foes? http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/flex-and-ajax-friends-or-foes/ People Deserve Better Software Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:58:50 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Ramin Orujov http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/flex-and-ajax-friends-or-foes/#comment-4830 Ramin Orujov Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:20:10 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/flex-and-ajax-friends-or-foes/#comment-4830 Hello from Azerbaijan :) Good review of Flex and AJAX technologies. Thanks Anthony, good luck to you! Hello from Azerbaijan :)
Good review of Flex and AJAX technologies.
Thanks Anthony, good luck to you!

]]> By: anthonyfranco http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/flex-and-ajax-friends-or-foes/#comment-4080 anthonyfranco Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:59:09 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/flex-and-ajax-friends-or-foes/#comment-4080 John -- What is the "free" alternative for streaming video using AJAX? I'm hoping you know something I don't. Also, there are plenty of free options for streaming video in flash... 1) Smart Progressive Downloading (this is what YouTube Uses) 2) Red5 3) MING 4) I'm sure there are more ! John –

What is the “free” alternative for streaming video using AJAX? I’m hoping you know something I don’t.

Also, there are plenty of free options for streaming video in flash…

1) Smart Progressive Downloading (this is what YouTube Uses)
2) Red5
3) MING
4) I’m sure there are more !

]]> By: John Alway http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/flex-and-ajax-friends-or-foes/#comment-4078 John Alway Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:31:40 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/flex-and-ajax-friends-or-foes/#comment-4078 While you can receive streaming video from a web cam with Flex, in order to do it you have to have access to a Flash Media Server, which is costly. I find this to be a real limitation. ...John While you can receive streaming video from a web cam with Flex, in order to do it you have to have access to a Flash Media Server, which is costly. I find this to be a real limitation.

…John

]]> By: hiutopor http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/flex-and-ajax-friends-or-foes/#comment-2257 hiutopor Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:43:05 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/flex-and-ajax-friends-or-foes/#comment-2257 Hi all! Very interesting information! Thanks! G'night Hi all!

Very interesting information! Thanks!

G’night

]]> By: John http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/flex-and-ajax-friends-or-foes/#comment-453 John Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:54:22 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/flex-and-ajax-friends-or-foes/#comment-453 Very Nice! thank you very much for this awesome post! Very Nice! thank you very much for this awesome post!

]]> By: anthonyfranco http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/flex-and-ajax-friends-or-foes/#comment-408 anthonyfranco Sat, 23 Jun 2007 16:33:57 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/flex-and-ajax-friends-or-foes/#comment-408 Mahmoud and Douglas... We debated on bringing in other technologies into this white-paper like OpenLaszlo and Silverlight. EffectiveUI's customers are primarily Fortune 1000s focused on creating scalable, business focused, engaging, connected applications. Our feeling is that neither of these technologies are mature enough to include in this document, yet. Once there are good, reference-able, large-scale enterprise deployments on OpenLaszlo or Silverlight, we will add them. WPF/Silverlight has some terrific Video capabilities, and Microsoft has a great product roadmap pulled together. We are carefully evaluating Silverlight as a viable option but we are also cognizant that it is new and untested by the market. Make no mistake, Microsoft is to be taken very seriously in this race. OpenLaszlo has a great promise "Develop in one code-base and deploy in either the Flash Runtime or in AJAX" ... however, when you look under the hood, you find that you are developing to the lowest common denominator for both. For example, you can not leverage the Video Streaming, Drawing APIs or Bitmap Manipulation capabilities of the Flash Player nor the HTML rendering of the browser. Basically, you have to develop to the weaknesses of both platforms, not to the strengths of one or the other. Additionally, if you ever talk to someone who has actually deployed a production application in OpenLaszlo, you will find that (relatively speaking) the learning curve is steep, the documentation sparse, and the community & company support is limited and expensive. Mahmoud and Douglas…

We debated on bringing in other technologies into this white-paper like OpenLaszlo and Silverlight. EffectiveUI’s customers are primarily Fortune 1000s focused on creating scalable, business focused, engaging, connected applications. Our feeling is that neither of these technologies are mature enough to include in this document, yet. Once there are good, reference-able, large-scale enterprise deployments on OpenLaszlo or Silverlight, we will add them.

WPF/Silverlight has some terrific Video capabilities, and Microsoft has a great product roadmap pulled together. We are carefully evaluating Silverlight as a viable option but we are also cognizant that it is new and untested by the market. Make no mistake, Microsoft is to be taken very seriously in this race.

OpenLaszlo has a great promise “Develop in one code-base and deploy in either the Flash Runtime or in AJAX” … however, when you look under the hood, you find that you are developing to the lowest common denominator for both. For example, you can not leverage the Video Streaming, Drawing APIs or Bitmap Manipulation capabilities of the Flash Player nor the HTML rendering of the browser. Basically, you have to develop to the weaknesses of both platforms, not to the strengths of one or the other. Additionally, if you ever talk to someone who has actually deployed a production application in OpenLaszlo, you will find that (relatively speaking) the learning curve is steep, the documentation sparse, and the community & company support is limited and expensive.

]]> By: Debabrata http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/flex-and-ajax-friends-or-foes/#comment-404 Debabrata Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:03:37 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/flex-and-ajax-friends-or-foes/#comment-404 Nice comparison!! Nice comparison!!

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]]> By: Mahmoud http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/flex-and-ajax-friends-or-foes/#comment-402 Mahmoud Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:45:18 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/flex-and-ajax-friends-or-foes/#comment-402 How about OpenLaszlo? It is open source, and allows you to compile the same source code into SWF (just like Flex), or browser specific DHTML (AJAX). The development tools need some work (for example, you can't set break-points in the runtime debugger). However, it seems to provide the best of both worlds. You write one animation expression, say bouncing a ball over a decaying sigmoid, and see it in both Flash and Dojo ! How about OpenLaszlo? It is open source, and allows you to compile the same source code into SWF (just like Flex), or browser specific DHTML (AJAX). The development tools need some work (for example, you can’t set break-points in the runtime debugger). However, it seems to provide the best of both worlds. You write one animation expression, say bouncing a ball over a decaying sigmoid, and see it in both Flash and Dojo !

]]> By: miketrap http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/flex-and-ajax-friends-or-foes/#comment-401 miketrap Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:26:15 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/flex-and-ajax-friends-or-foes/#comment-401 Excellent post. Thanks. Excellent post. Thanks.

]]> By: Douglas Gennetten http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/flex-and-ajax-friends-or-foes/#comment-400 Douglas Gennetten Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:08:20 +0000 http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/flex-and-ajax-friends-or-foes/#comment-400 Best treatment of this comparison to date. Anthony, I would like to see a third column: "WPF/Silverlight" Best treatment of this comparison to date. Anthony, I would like to see a third column: “WPF/Silverlight”

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